Connor, a 50-year old is not a Boomer. We're GenX, the Boomers' first experimental test subjects to find out whether Narcissism is a winning life strategy. If you were born in the 60s, to groovy hippie parents, you're GenX, and there isn't anyone on earth more angry at the Boomers stealing everything than us. We're the ones the Boomers wanted dead, literally; there's a really good reason we're such a tiny demographic that everyone forgets we exist. We're only-children for a reason. Yes, we know exactly what it does to have our parents be the ones who slammed the doors on all our hopes and aspirations in life.
Sounds like the Zoomers are having a similar (not commonly known) moment to the GenX-ers. As a member of the millenial cohort, I grew up utterly ahistorical and with a distinct lack of patriotism. It seems there are similarities with regards to cultural loss across every generation that succeeded the boomers. Do you think it gets more acute with each generation or do you think the GenX-ers are/were the most angry?
Gen-X is the most angry because we were children and teenagers when the Boomers were taking it all away. We remember what it was like before, and we were conscious of having no chance at all of ever living in the kind of world they took for granted. We lived through the transition phase. All you guys know is the New World.
I think it gets worse because the younger you are the less actual meat-space contact you had with the old world of the Before Time. I was raised in substantial part by my grandparents, b. 1897 and 1903. My grandfather served in both wars, and my mother and grandmother were raised in, effectively, the Victorian period. My grandmother bcs she was born in 1903 in Plymouth, and my mother bcs she was raised in Post-War Manchester where daily life had been smashed back to the 19th century by the bombing and total destruction of the infrastructure. I was also raised in a cultural/intellectual environment that required that I be deeply aware of history; knowing who we were, where we came from and what it all meant in the larger picture was simply the way everyone understood life. So, yes. The communists took over education and media, and the very first thing you have to do if you want to indoctrinate an entire nation is erase the past from their consciousness. It was done to you on purpose.
Great conversation. Have to admit, while moaning about the madness of the Gen Z world, it didn't come from nowhere. It is encouraging at least to see a new rebellious and original spirit heading in the right direction. Also have to accept that 'liberalism' as an idea doesn't work once untethered from any other culture.
Yes, liberalism seems only fit for the English/British because, as Carl Benjamin put so well on a podcast appearance, liberalism was a codification of the English settlement. It works/worked here because this is its crucible. However, it doesn't work when you expect peoples from cultural settings outside of that settlement/geography to follow it...people do not naturally incline to it. I think a world without some of its guiding principles is going to be grim but i don't see there being any other way out other than through.
We can only see this now in the fading of its light, that liberalism works in a Christian or at least culturally Christian society. If nothing else, even if they are opposing forces they force a compromise. At best there is some healthy competition between the two. I don’t know where the post-liberal world will take us, but I am sure the ride will be difficult.
Yes, a great conversation. I left a comment somewhere, but it doesn't appear to have made it here! What I said, in essence, was that listening to two such young men, who are so thoughtful, wise, and honourable, filled me with hope. And I'm well aware, as a Boomer myself, that my generation has failed you. I do hope we can force a change in course before the ship of state--indeed the nation--hits the iceberg. Warmest wishes, as always.
Garry - you don't need to sound so apologetic on behalf of a statistical representation of a generation. For what it's worth, i think the ship is starting to turn...it just so happens that lots of different types of people, with very different ideas/values are trying to grab the wheel. Thanks for your unwavering support, as always. Best, John.
I hope you're right, though the UK General Election doesn't encourage me! Still, elsewhere in Europe there are definitely signs of an awakening. I even wonder if this will prove a historic year of popular revolt across the Continent, like 1848. All the best again!
This was a great conversation. Well worth listening to.
Connor, a 50-year old is not a Boomer. We're GenX, the Boomers' first experimental test subjects to find out whether Narcissism is a winning life strategy. If you were born in the 60s, to groovy hippie parents, you're GenX, and there isn't anyone on earth more angry at the Boomers stealing everything than us. We're the ones the Boomers wanted dead, literally; there's a really good reason we're such a tiny demographic that everyone forgets we exist. We're only-children for a reason. Yes, we know exactly what it does to have our parents be the ones who slammed the doors on all our hopes and aspirations in life.
Sounds like the Zoomers are having a similar (not commonly known) moment to the GenX-ers. As a member of the millenial cohort, I grew up utterly ahistorical and with a distinct lack of patriotism. It seems there are similarities with regards to cultural loss across every generation that succeeded the boomers. Do you think it gets more acute with each generation or do you think the GenX-ers are/were the most angry?
Gen-X is the most angry because we were children and teenagers when the Boomers were taking it all away. We remember what it was like before, and we were conscious of having no chance at all of ever living in the kind of world they took for granted. We lived through the transition phase. All you guys know is the New World.
I think it gets worse because the younger you are the less actual meat-space contact you had with the old world of the Before Time. I was raised in substantial part by my grandparents, b. 1897 and 1903. My grandfather served in both wars, and my mother and grandmother were raised in, effectively, the Victorian period. My grandmother bcs she was born in 1903 in Plymouth, and my mother bcs she was raised in Post-War Manchester where daily life had been smashed back to the 19th century by the bombing and total destruction of the infrastructure. I was also raised in a cultural/intellectual environment that required that I be deeply aware of history; knowing who we were, where we came from and what it all meant in the larger picture was simply the way everyone understood life. So, yes. The communists took over education and media, and the very first thing you have to do if you want to indoctrinate an entire nation is erase the past from their consciousness. It was done to you on purpose.
Great conversation. Have to admit, while moaning about the madness of the Gen Z world, it didn't come from nowhere. It is encouraging at least to see a new rebellious and original spirit heading in the right direction. Also have to accept that 'liberalism' as an idea doesn't work once untethered from any other culture.
Yes, liberalism seems only fit for the English/British because, as Carl Benjamin put so well on a podcast appearance, liberalism was a codification of the English settlement. It works/worked here because this is its crucible. However, it doesn't work when you expect peoples from cultural settings outside of that settlement/geography to follow it...people do not naturally incline to it. I think a world without some of its guiding principles is going to be grim but i don't see there being any other way out other than through.
We can only see this now in the fading of its light, that liberalism works in a Christian or at least culturally Christian society. If nothing else, even if they are opposing forces they force a compromise. At best there is some healthy competition between the two. I don’t know where the post-liberal world will take us, but I am sure the ride will be difficult.
Yes, a great conversation. I left a comment somewhere, but it doesn't appear to have made it here! What I said, in essence, was that listening to two such young men, who are so thoughtful, wise, and honourable, filled me with hope. And I'm well aware, as a Boomer myself, that my generation has failed you. I do hope we can force a change in course before the ship of state--indeed the nation--hits the iceberg. Warmest wishes, as always.
Garry - you don't need to sound so apologetic on behalf of a statistical representation of a generation. For what it's worth, i think the ship is starting to turn...it just so happens that lots of different types of people, with very different ideas/values are trying to grab the wheel. Thanks for your unwavering support, as always. Best, John.
I hope you're right, though the UK General Election doesn't encourage me! Still, elsewhere in Europe there are definitely signs of an awakening. I even wonder if this will prove a historic year of popular revolt across the Continent, like 1848. All the best again!